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Ivan Fyodorovich's avatar

At the risk of making a comment that will start a culture-war fight, how bad is the Expropriation Act? I can't tell from the Wikipedia-level descriptions if it's a symbolic sop to the left that poses no danger, a prelude to mass-expropriation, or a law that could be harmless or disastrous depending on how future governments choose to implement it (or perhaps option 4, a law that indicates you should get out because you are at the mercy of the worst future government).

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mohamed mohamed's avatar

It’s not that bad. From the BBC : The new law allows for expropriation without compensation only in circumstances where it is "just and equitable and in the public interest" to do so.

This includes if the property is not being used and there's no intention to either develop or make money from it or when it poses a risk to people.

The president's spokesperson Vincent Magwenya said that, under the law, the state "may not expropriate property arbitrarily or for a purpose other than... in the public interest".

"Expropriation may not be exercised unless the expropriating authority has without success attempted to reach an agreement with the owner," he added.

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Reprobater's avatar

This has been bubbling for years as a white nationalist whine. About whites in SA being "genocided." There's been a lot of violent crime. Done politicians have been talking about this. I don't think that it's happened to family farms.

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Sean Traven's avatar

There are about 230 million Dalits. Most would immigrate sooner or later if they could. Their average IQ according to available data is around 80 or even lower. The reasons are unclear. The facts are not disputed much.

There is a large political party in SA that holds mass rallies where they sing and chant about killing whites. There is no equivalent to this in any other country on earth.

The Expropriation Act is an attempt to pass into law the possibility of doing what was done in Zimbabwe. Its structure allows the state to determine when such seizure is in the "public interest." It mirrors the rhetorical and legal prelude to Zimbabwe's land seizures and driving out of whites, which is a cultural genocide under the UN definition. Whether it results in the same outcome depends not on text, but on political intent and capacity, which are opaque and shifting but trending only one way. Mandela is long gone.

Farm murder data in South Africa are no longer separately tracked by government institutions, though they were previously. This cessation of data collection follows international criticism of "white genocide" claims. The choice not to gather numbers is not neutral. It precludes empirical debate using statistics. That, too, is a political act. Why did it occur?

What I have offered is not an argument. It is a structural description. The logic flows from the facts.

The facts are fairly clear.

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