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Reepicheep's avatar

The Hebrew's national charter was explicitly based upon a divinely commanded ethic of remembering how horrible social and economic oppression felt for them in Egypt, and thus, a command to treat any non-aggressive outsider seeking to escape similar oppression, with a special kindness and an invitation to convert, but fairly high tolerance for peaceful non-converts.

In a nutshell, that's the bible's definition of nationalism. Remember, then act.

Ethnic solidarity as constitutive of the national charter was a joke from day one, because even in Abraham's day, the religion was aggressively evangelical, incorporating foreigners at a breathtaking rate. When Abraham left Ur, his nation included plenty of folks not of his own loins. When the Hebrews left Egypt, they were a highly miscegenated multitude (Joseph having already mixed Hebrew and Egyptian blood, and the Egyptian component being ratified by Jacob's blessing of Joseph's mixed-race sons). There were only two guys with the courage and faith to conquer Canaan; Joshua and Caleb; and Caleb was an incorporated foreigner, not a descendant of Abraham. So Israel was 50% mudblood even before King David.

By the time of Christ, the Jews shouting "We have Abraham as our father!" were seriously self-deluded, and Jesus told them so. (Although Christ himself was an oddity as he could credibly trace a lineage to Abraham, though including many foreign infusions).

The Puritan founders of the proto-USA, from where we consciously and unconsciously imbibe so many of our ideals, viewed their national project as a type of recapitulation of Israel, and their ethic of sojourning and welcoming immigrants resembled the early Hebrew's. This is why the colonies, and then the first 100 years of the republic, were so militantly incorporative of immigrants, and why, instead of an ethnic nation, we almost universally began to speak of the USA as a "nation of ideas".

Of course, we still like to use that phrase, but we no longer really know, or understand, those early ideas. We've supposedly come up with better ones.

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This reminds me of an interesting feature of the SF grand strategy game Stellaris. In the game, every civilization has certain traits. One of these is ‘inward perfection,’ which essentially requires the civilization to ‘build tall’ rather than wide. Significant debuffs to conquest and expansion, significant buffs to your handful of starting planets.

I think this was inspired by a particular alien civilization in the Old Man’s War series by John Scalzi. In the series, the galaxy is in a state of maximal interstate anarchy. A war of all against all, essentially. Almost all civilizations, humans included, are approximately at demographic, technological, and economic parity. There are exceptions, mostly on the lower end, which often leads to things like extinction or orbital Stone Age-ing. Extinction is a common policy objective and a common policy consequence, even among peers as described.

The exception are (eventually, obviously, humans, but in a way that sort of makes us the villains) the Consu. The Consu are a crustacean-like species of vast technological superiority over every other species. They have created an artificial star in their system and enclosed it in a sphere in order to project a titanic force field around the whole system. They have no interest in other species or other territories, that we would recognize. They do fight the other species, but for religious and sporting reasons, not for conquest. They think they’re saving the souls of the benighted in this fashion, and having fun.

The plot of the first book largely concerns Consu tech that ‘leaks’ to a rival of humanity’s, and why they’d permit such a thing considering their long-standing policy.

It seems that these are what Hazony is gesturing at with his ‘definition,’ and it made me wonder if any human civilization has ever really behaved in a similar fashion. I don’t think so, but it’s not for lack of people like Hazony recommending it.

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