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Problem with western countries and their immigration policies is they make legitimate immigrants applying for visas , work visas excessively hard and complex .

Yet illegal immigrants flood in unrestricted.

These immigrants are of low education, low abilities , criminal minded and non productive. All government data points towards this .

A strict policy should be in place that anyone breaking rules should be deported immediately irrespective of any circumstances.

Even citizenship laws should be made strict. And that citizenship can be withdrawn for breaking the laws of land .

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Where did you get any data in defense of your idea that illegal aliens are criminally minded? As Alex and others have proven, all the evidence we have points against your claims.

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Entering a country without permission is illegal.

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Why don’t you look up data on crimes reported . European countries publish such data and evidence is clear as to who culprits are .

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We're talking about the States, not Europe.

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Now that I'm 70 and drawing Social Security, I like the "horrors of socialism" just fine.

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Your children and grandchildren will pay the price of open borders socialism, enjoy your social security and virtue signaling.

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That's like changing the law to make stealing anything under a certain amount a non-crime.

So numbers of thefts go down.

Are they vetting these 30,000 migrants?

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It’s not like theft though because there’s no victim. It’s a mutually beneficial and voluntary exchange. It’s like legalizing alcohol, crushing the black market, and expanding the scope of legal exchange. Prohibitionist prudes may not like it, but it’s not like legalizing theft.

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If someone breaks into your house without permission and starts eating from your wages, is that good for the household?

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There are several relevant differences between your house analogy and illegal immigration, but we should keep in mind that we are talking about immigration liberalization, not illegal immigration per se.

Some relevant differences:

- Your country is "yours" only in a socialist regime. Therefore, America is not yours.

- Immigrants do not eat American wages; they mostly compete with other immigrants and native-born high school dropouts. They also produce other massive economic benefits.

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First I'm not in America.

I believe migration should be controlled in such a way that the migrants have a positive benefit to their host nation.

Your theory depends on whether the migrants pay taxes like everyone else.

The fact is the majority of them are low-skilled individuals.

There are a lot of drugs being imported to the likes of the USA.

In the USA coyotes rape their clients if they're young and reasonably good-looking.

Many females take birth control before setting off because they know they'll face rape by the gangs.

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Allowing criminals to swarm into your country makes nonsense of the people who come legally.

If people want to live and work in your country, they should have the means to pay for themselves and have something of value to offer theur host nation.

This current lot only cost money.

They are NOT a benefit.

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How would you know if they're not beneficial if you haven't looked at the scientific evidence?

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Easy to establish.

Are they paid with tax payers money?

Do they have a means to be productive.

Do you think you should be obliged to feed, clothe and provide for unwanted guests who arrive on your doorstep?

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What reason do you have to think immigration liberalization is like stealing liberalization? I don’t see that they’re equivalent.

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If your nation has 51% of people from a culture hostile to the native liberal culture, then the nation becomes hostile to the native population.

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