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Steve Griffin's avatar

There's really no point in acting like someone who entered the country without permission, or stayed longer than they had permission to, isn't breaking the law. When Cato or anyone else quietly moves the bar to "these are people who haven't committed any violent crimes," they make people who want immigration laws enforced feel like they're being dealt with dishonestly. This is a poor, disengenous article. If you want to sway people, you have to be honest about their objections.

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KJL's avatar

You're wrong. I'll tell you why, by asking you a few simple questions. Your answer should tell you all you need to know if you can think objectively that is, which many cannot these days. If not Ellis Island, where do immigrants go to come to America for the American dream legally in 2025, without using a search engine for your answer? Are we not the melting pot of the world anymore where people come to live out their American Dream? How did your relatives come here legally and do these "illegals" from the "South" have the same opportunity without discrimination that your relatives had to come here in the first place? Think before you speak your uninformed rhetoric, ignorant, discriminatory comments. Nevermind, you don't advertise that your selling a Lamborghini and instead you sell a Pinto, that's wrong for a dealership, shouldn't it be illegal for our President to do the same? So why is it that the most unintelligent, uninformed, and racially bias people speak out, instead of the intelligent, informed, racially compassionate and understanding caring people sit back and hope they all wake up soon?

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Steve Griffin's avatar

1. If not Ellis Island, where do immigrants go to come to America for the American dream legally in 2025, without using a search engine for your answer?

Watch how people who come here legally do it, and then do what they do. (Why would 1 need Google to know

that?)

2. Are we not the melting pot of the world anymore where people come to live out their American Dream?

That has nothing to do with people who come here illegally. We have no interest in being a melting pot for people who are sneaking in as a way of evading their child support payments in their home countries or disappearing from other obligations they may have there.

3. How did your relatives come here legally?

My ancestors were already here when the United States was formed. John Griffin was buried in a church cemetery in Virginia in the mid-1600's.

4. do these "illegals" from the "South" have the same opportunity without discrimination that your relatives had to come here in the first place?

Why did you put South in quotations You're not quoting me.

5. Nevermind, you don't advertise that your selling a Lamborghini and instead you sell a Pinto, that's wrong for a dealership, shouldn't it be illegal for our President to do the same?

I'm trying to understand what that has to do with illegal immigration.

6. So why is it that the most unintelligent, uninformed, and racially bias people speak out...

You mean "biased," not bias.

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James W Troy's avatar

Many thanks to David Bier for collecting this information, providing the illustrative graphs, and writing the commentary !

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Steve Griffin's avatar

1. If not Ellis Island, where do immigrants go to come to America for the American dream legally in 2025, without using a search engine for your answer?

Watch how people who come here legally do it, and then do what they do. (Why would I need Google to know that?)

2. Are we not the melting pot of the world anymore where people come to live out their American Dream?

That has nothing to do with people who come here illegally. We have no interest in being a melting pot for people who are sneaking in as a way of evading their child support payments in their home countries or disappearing from other obligations they may have there.

3. How did your relatives come here legally?

My ancestors were already here when the United States was formed. John Griffin was buried in a church cemetery in Virginia in the mid-1600's.

4. do these "illegals" from the "South" have the same opportunity without discrimination that your relatives had to come here in the first place?

Why did you put South in quotations? You're not quoting me.

5. Nevermind, you don't advertise that your selling a Lamborghini and instead you sell a Pinto, that's wrong for a dealership, shouldn't it be illegal for our President to do the same?

I'm trying to understand what that has to do with illegal immigration.

6. So why is it that the most unintelligent, uninformed, and racially bias people speak out...

You mean "biased," not bias.

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Michael Hermens's avatar

I suspect it depends on what is meant by “crime”. CATO apparently only cares about injury crimes where people are hurt physically or their property is stolen.

I wonder how CATO looks at drunk driving, trespass, and counterfeiting which are process crimes, much the way of illegal immigration.

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Long Term View's avatar

This is a war about census and house seats. Democrats flooded blue cities to gain census and house seats and Republicans are taking them away. All evil as this article willfully misses this very important point and takes a side in this evil battle.

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