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forumposter123@protonmail.com's avatar

Trump got:

57% of the white vote

46% of the Hispanic vote

40% of the Asian vote

13% of the black vote

My understanding of how elections work is that you need to get 50.1% to win. So all non-white groups were a drag on Trump winning.

I certainly appreciate they were less of a drag in 2024 then in the past, but you don't "make up selling for a loss on volume." That just digs a bigger hole.

I also worry that we could see the same thing we saw in 2004, when Bush getting 40% of the Hispanic vote was supposed to be a watershed in the GOP race relations, only for that to crater under Romney to 27%.

If I were to zoom out, non-white non-black voting patterns seem to shift around from 20-40% over time. I think trump may have meaningfully moved the center point a bit to the right, but I'm still not seeing 50%+.

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Randolph Carter's avatar

This reinforces the sense I get from my wife's Colombian immigrant family - by and large, they like immigration, but only legal immigration, having gone through that giant pain in the ass themselves. I've always been baffled by the idea that an immigrant business owner who went through the arduous process of becoming a citizen so he could vote would be temperamentally sympathetic to someone who entered the country illegally - if anything, I'd imagine calls for more stringent rules would resonate more strongly with that group.

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